{"id":2906,"date":"2018-06-01T10:28:41","date_gmt":"2018-06-01T14:28:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.afcpe.org\/?p=2906"},"modified":"2019-04-23T15:44:01","modified_gmt":"2019-04-23T19:44:01","slug":"fridayfollow-helping-people-climb-out-from-under-the-rock-of-fear","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.afcpe.org\/news-and-publications\/blog\/fridayfollow-helping-people-climb-out-from-under-the-rock-of-fear\/","title":{"rendered":"#FridayFollow &#8211; Helping people climb out from under the rock of fear"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"2906\" class=\"elementor elementor-2906 elementor-bc-flex-widget\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"has_eae_slider elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-6ef6ded elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-eae-slider=\"14065\" data-id=\"6ef6ded\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"has_eae_slider elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-13a9f1f1\" data-eae-slider=\"47105\" data-id=\"13a9f1f1\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"has_eae_slider elementor-section elementor-inner-section elementor-element elementor-element-5cff5402 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-eae-slider=\"38695\" data-id=\"5cff5402\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"has_eae_slider elementor-column elementor-col-66 elementor-inner-column elementor-element elementor-element-6d4886bf\" data-eae-slider=\"4862\" data-id=\"6d4886bf\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-769609e2 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"769609e2\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Adrian Klenz, AFC<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u00a0is a financial counselor, educator and certified housing counselor. He\u2019s also one of AFCPE\u2019s AFC<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u00a0Review Course instructors. When people ask what he does, he usually has to explain how his work differs from a financial advisor or a financial planner.\u00a0<\/p><p><strong>Adrian:<\/strong>\u00a0Usually people hear the word \u201cfinancial\u201d and think investment and retirement planning. I explain to them that I focus more on financial behaviors.\u00a0<\/p><p><strong>AFCPE: What inspired you to enter the personal finance field?<\/strong><\/p><p>\u00a0Unemployment! I was laid off at the height of the \u201cgreat recession\u201d and I answered a job ad for an Americorps position for a local community action agency (Western Dairyland).\u00a0They wanted me to create a financial literacy program.\u00a0I had been working for a decade in the mental health field so it was quite a transition. Fortunately, I have been able to use my mental health experience to help clients make changes to financial behaviors.\u00a0I taught for a time at UW-Eau Claire teaching students how to be financial mentors. Then I began teaching for several national organizations. In 2015 I started my own business providing financial counseling, housing counseling and financial education.\u00a0<\/p><p><strong>AFCPE: Tell us how you are \u201cmeeting people where they are.\u201d<\/strong><\/p><p>I find that sharing my own trouble with money from my younger days helps put people at ease. They realize that I am not going to judge them because I have experienced many of the same issues they are facing.\u00a0That has helped me meet people where they are.\u00a0<\/p><p><strong>AFCPE: What\u2019s on the horizon? What\u2019s got you most excited in your work?<\/strong><\/p><p>I have been thinking a lot about how to stay \u201crelevant.\u201d\u00a0 It is important not to be complacent. I am contemplating getting my certification as a financial coach (FFC<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>). I have some experience with coaching but I am considering taking that to the next level. I am exploring certification in financial therapy.\u00a0Given my mental health background, that might be enjoyable. I am also working on a book about my experiences with money and how I was able to climb out of that hole.\u00a0Since I teach all over the country I get to chat with non-profit professionals everywhere and that helps me keep my finger on the pulse.\u00a0<\/p><p><strong>Adrian answers the Friday 5:<\/strong><\/p><p><strong>My Why:<\/strong>\u00a0Helping people climb out from under the rock of fear. Money issues create a significant amount of stress and emotional anguish.\u00a0I lived that. So, helping people take control of their money issues and helping them find peace is my why.\u00a0<\/p><p><strong>My Favorite Quote:\u00a0<\/strong>\u201cI have often been adrift but I have always remained afloat.\u201d<\/p><p><strong>My Hero (who inspires you):\u00a0<\/strong>My biggest historical hero is Robert Kennedy. In the financial realm, I really admire Elizabeth Warren.<\/p><p><strong>My Favorite Personal Finance Resource:\u00a0<\/strong>I have several Google alerts set for topics like \u201cfinancial literacy, financial counseling, financial coaching, financial capability, and budgeting.\u201d\u00a0I get daily notices from all over the internet with many wonderful articles. I usually find this helpful.\u00a0<\/p><p><strong>My best advice:\u00a0<\/strong>Try to keep things in perspective. Nothing is as good or bad as it seems.\u00a0We often get so worked up that we lose perspective and focus.\u00a0<\/p><ul><li><strong>For someone starting the journey to financial well-ness:\u00a0<\/strong>Knowledge is power. Most clients don\u2019t know how much they owe, who they owe money to, or have never looked at their credit report.\u00a0They have no idea how much money they spend. I tell clients they need to get out of the dark and into the light, so I have them track spending and get their credit reports.\u00a0Once they know how much they are spending and once they have a clear picture of their debts, a lot of the fear of the unknown melts away.\u00a0That new perspective makes it easier to start climbing out of the hole they are in.\u00a0<br \/>\u00a0<\/li><li><strong>For a new professional entering this field:\u00a0<\/strong>Check your judgments.\u00a0We all have different values and we have to make sure we are not pushing our beliefs and our values on our clients.\u00a0That is the quickest way to scare clients off.\u00a0You can\u2019t build trust if you are making a client feel judged.\u00a0<\/li><\/ul><p><strong>Follow me:\u00a0<\/strong>Facebook under Klenz Financial Counseling or at\u00a0<u><a href=\"http:\/\/www.klenzfinancialcounseling.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">www.klenzfinancialcounseling.com<\/a><\/u><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"has_eae_slider elementor-column elementor-col-33 elementor-inner-column elementor-element elementor-element-2a1d3c3f\" data-eae-slider=\"96773\" data-id=\"2a1d3c3f\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-13fe67bc elementor-widget elementor-widget-image-gallery\" data-id=\"13fe67bc\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image-gallery.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-image-gallery\">\n\t\t\t\n<a data-elementor-open-lightbox=\"no\" href='https:\/\/www.afcpe.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/57722_731_AdrianKlenz.jpg'><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/www.afcpe.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/57722_731_AdrianKlenz.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.afcpe.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/57722_731_AdrianKlenz.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.afcpe.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/57722_731_AdrianKlenz-200x300.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-72b02bd3 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"72b02bd3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h4><span style=\"color: #5d89b3;\">June 01, 2018<br \/>Interview with Adrian Klenz, AFC\u00ae, AFCPE\u00ae Member<\/span><\/h4>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Adrian Klenz, AFC\u00ae\u00a0is a financial counselor, educator and certified housing counselor. 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