{"id":42732,"date":"2025-07-08T11:00:29","date_gmt":"2025-07-08T15:00:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.afcpe.org\/?p=42732"},"modified":"2025-07-22T16:39:02","modified_gmt":"2025-07-22T20:39:02","slug":"real-money-real-experts-whole-self-whole-wealth-the-power-of-holistic-financial-wellness-with-dr-brandon-shurn-afc%ef%b8%8f","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.afcpe.org\/news-and-publications\/blog\/real-money-real-experts-whole-self-whole-wealth-the-power-of-holistic-financial-wellness-with-dr-brandon-shurn-afc%ef%b8%8f\/","title":{"rendered":"Real Money, Real Experts: Whole Self, Whole Wealth: The Power of Holistic Financial Wellness with Dr. Brandon Shurn, AFC\u00ae\ufe0f"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"42732\" class=\"elementor elementor-42732\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"has_eae_slider elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element 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financial counselor, and certified personal trainer\u2014who brings a truly holistic perspective to financial wellness.<\/p><p>Dr. Shurn walks us through his journey from traditional mental health counseling to founding his private practice, Empower Me Holistic Counseling. He shares how financial health, physical health, and mental well-being are deeply interconnected\u2014and how professionals can support clients by addressing the full picture.<\/p><p>We discuss how to help clients break free from generational money scripts, how to define your ideal client in private practice, and why time is one of our most powerful yet underutilized resources.<\/p><p><b>Show Notes:\u00a0<\/b><\/p><p>03:25 Brandon&#8217;s journey into financial wellness<\/p><p>08:37 How money scripts shape behavior\u2014and how to reframe them<\/p><p>12:55 Breaking generational cycles through financial empowerment<\/p><p>18:32 Why your ideal client matters\u00a0<\/p><p>21:29 Knowing your audience = more effective client attraction\u00a0<\/p><p>23:40 Why time is a tool, not a barrier\u00a0<\/p><p>25:32 Brandon&#8217;s 2 cents<\/p><p><b>Show Note Links:<\/b><\/p><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/brandon-shurn-ph-d-lcpc-lmhc-afc%C2%AE-ncc-96b18727\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Connect with Brandon on Linkedin!<\/a><\/p><p><a href=\"https:\/\/emholisticcounseling.com\/%20%20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Learn more about Empower Me Holistic Counseling!<\/a><\/p><p>Want to get involved with AFCPE\u00ae?<br \/>Here are a few places to start:<\/p><ul><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.afcpe.org\/membership\" data-feathr-click-track=\"true\" data-feathr-link-aids=\"5d7a72d2d3708ff60b15b280\">Become a Member<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.afcpe.org\/education\/\" data-feathr-click-track=\"true\" data-feathr-link-aids=\"5d7a72d2d3708ff60b15b280\">Sign up for an Essentials Course<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.afcpe.org\/certification\/afc\/\" data-feathr-click-track=\"true\" data-feathr-link-aids=\"5d7a72d2d3708ff60b15b280\"> Get AFC Certified today!<\/a><\/li><\/ul><p>Want to support the podcast? 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